vs. Roll out and Chuck

[joshuahuskers]

Ok so I'm playing my buddy tonight, and all he does is roll out and chuck the ball down the field. I tried a QB contain play on defense, but then there's man to man everywhere on the field, and I'm owned.

I scored 48 points with a straight offense, but I just couldn't stop him. I lost 62-48. Any advice?

[MightyBruin]

This piece of advice isn't really going to help answer your question, but I think you should punch that douche in the face.

[Fluff E Bunny]

This piece of advice isn't really going to help answer your question, but I think you should punch that douche in the face.

Yeah, I agree. Sometimes a douche-buddy needs a good punching.

[HAWGS]

Ive played people like that on older games. The classic roll out of the pocket and heave down field. I got a fast MLB, OLB or even a Nickel safety and ran some type of QB spy, where the guy i was controlling had no responsibility other than the QB, and Id just wait to see which side he was running to and speed in to pressure/sack him. Theyll still complete some, but youll cause alot of interceptions and sacks/fumbles too.

[Heisman06]

This piece of advice isn't really going to help answer your question, but I think you should punch that douche in the face.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Funniest thing i've ever heard.

[keyser soze]

If that is all he can do call dime and blitch the CBs, it was my answer to last year's Texas players.

[Mr. Option]

I use the Drop Zone plays

Control a MLB and use him as a spy

Shift D-Line - Spread
Shift LB - Spread
Shift DB - Back

[rhombic21]

This shit is impossible to beat if your opponent is smart enough to run the ball every once in awhile, and to dump off to short WRs against your deep zones. The fucking linemen are retarded and keep trying to run into the tackles.

[kella]

I actually hit my friend in the face once for doing this shit. He finally stopped for the most part after he picked up online play and was forced to go straight.

Here's how gay this is: anothe friend of ours' 15 year old cousin was visiting. Took FSU (this is on '04) and just chucked it deep every play. He'd never played the game in his life. He beat my buddy by like 21.

[Carlbunga2001]

I've heard on the VG boards that 3-3-5 works pretty well, though I haven't used it myself.

[rhombic21]

It might just be my imagination, but it seemed like the DL got better contain if I looped them and didn't spread them, as opposed to if I did both.

[Nothingface]

I'm just not any good against this. I played a rollout player today and lost 43-37. I swear if it was a straight game he would've been annihilated.

[Carlbunga2001]

Nickel 3-3-5 has a play where both corners blitz the edge and contain the quarterback. Though, you have to be able to defend the deep ball by yourself, and the flats are wide open, I thought it was pretty useful. Mix that in with some plays where the corner stays in the flat, and you might have some success.

[rhombic21]

Nickel 3-3-5 has a play where both corners blitz the edge and contain the quarterback. Though, you have to be able to defend the deep ball by yourself, and the flats are wide open, I thought it was pretty useful. Mix that in with some plays where the corner stays in the flat, and you might have some success.
Did this work against PA? Because in my experience, people will call a play like PA Read, and the Blitzing DBs end up running into the OTs. It doesn't really matter because most people who use this strategy are at least smart enough to throw to the flats when you continually leave them wide open.

[Carlbunga2001]

One guy try to use playaction and throw the corner route, but since the corner is so far way blitzing, he didn't bite on it (at least from my experience). The guy I was playing did eventually start to throw to the flats, but that is when I threw in a play where there was a guy in the flats.

[AirGibson]

First of all, if they really know what they're doing with West Virginia and their uber-tall receiver, it is very difficult as it's hard to keep him from catching the ball in the first place. Experts aside, most of the rollout exploiters are suceptible to this play:

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- Dime 3-2-6 DB Dogs 1
- Spread the line
- Press Coverage
- Control the blitzing DB on the open end of the field, as that's usually the rollout direction.

The spread line helps make the DE's engage the edges of the line while the DB's close in on both sides. And since only 5 guys are involved in rushing the QB, there's still decent coverage downfield with 1 deep safety. The press coverage keeps the WRs in check for a split second while you get pressure. If they force the quick pass, usually your man coverage will be all over them. The final quality point to the this D is that since it is man coverage, it is relatively unphased by play-action. Obviously, they could exploit this D with various audibles, but the point is that it usually works well against the rollout.

2
The 4-4 Split - Dogs Zone Blitz is another good one if you want to throw a zone coverage curveball. Bad against Play-action, though.

3
The 5-2 - Pinch is simillar, but it has no deep coverage and is easier to get a big play against. Might be good for a different look with simillar results, though.

Of course, all of them are predecated on getting pressure on the QB quick. Don't try to run down below the QB and come up from behind him else they'll just run right past you. Sometimes, just containing them (i.e. standing out to the side, preventing the rollout, but not picking up a block) is enought to mess them up. So many of them try to run the Ace Big - Corners play where they roll out and hit the corner route. Keep them from rolling your way and that trick is a bit tougher to pull off.

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Another suggestion for a change-up is to take the 3 down lineman pass D of your choice, control the DE of your choice, and play containment with him (i.e. get out to the side & don't get blocked). He can still roll / run to the other side, but when mixed with the other approaches, he might be scared to since normally both sides are pressured.

One of the better general points to D I've read is "be known for taking away something". With random online play, I prefer that something to be deep passes & rollouts since that is what far, far too many players rely on. Make them beat you with consistent O.

And the final point - The easiest way to avoid the rollout cheese is to simply avoid ever playing against WVU, Ohio State, and some of the other super-mobile QB teams. WVU is easily the worst, though.

[KILL3R]

I started just using that quarter defense w/ 3 down linemen... I would either run cover 3 man or zone. i would spy both DE's and if both or either was slow I would put a faster hopefully bigger LB at DE. Then I would just bullrush or run by the T to the QB's preferred rollout side. I know its kinda of cheesy and unrealistic but it actually worked out a lot. I started to figure that sometimes the only time your gonna keep up is fighting fire with fire or cheese with cheese.

[Mr. X]

That's not cheese! It's the Run-N-Shoot!

[illinifan91]

i have friend that do that, i do into a 3 down lineman defense and choose cover 2 man with the middle linebacker as a spy try finding that play, it should work decent.