Big East Basketball

[doh]

Conference slate will be starting up in a week or so, pretty good set of teams. UConn, Louisville, West Virginia, Nova, Syracuse, Marquette, Cincy to just name a few.

Syracuse had a nice 90-80 win over Davidson on Sunday. G Mac was 8-11 from 3 point land in a 38 point game.

[OCCoug]

Notre Dame sucks this year. We still might make the tourny at 9-7 though because our conference slate isn't as bad as normal. Right now we're beating Niagra by 9 in the second half and we won @ IPFW 65-63 like three days ago. Oh well at least we didn't lose like we lost to Central Michigan that one time.

edit - ok we won by 21, 80-59.

[LikeWhoa20]

Northwestern is destined for the NIT. I for one can't wait for the UConn-Nova showdown. And on a personal note, I also can't wait for UConn to come to Bloomington in a month and take on Indiana. I'll be at that one.

[Chase56]

Oklahoma just got Pittsnogled.

[maniacpilot931]

Northwestern is destined for the NIT. I for one can't wait for the UConn-Nova showdown. And on a personal note, I also can't wait for UConn to come to Bloomington in a month and take on Indiana. I'll be at that one.

Crazy shit always happens in the Nova-UConn game. Last year it was Charlie V saying "Check that shit out" to Coach Wright, and Jay pointing it out to the refs, then J getting the T.

Two years ago, Randy Foye drives to the basket on a last second play, and was clearly fouled by Okafor.

I hate Storrs.

[killerBsaturn]

Crazy shit always happens in the Nova-UConn game. Last year it was Charlie V saying "Check that shit out" to Coach Wright, and Jay pointing it out to the refs, then J getting the T.

Two years ago, Randy Foye drives to the basket on a last second play, and was clearly fouled by Okafor.

I hate Storrs.
The games should be great again this year. I would love to see an absolute trackmeet with both teams scoring 100.

[OCCoug]

Notre Dame shoots 51% from the field, 40% from 3, 17-21 at the line, outrebounds the other team by 10, yet only beats 4-8 Wofford at home by 3.

Wofford apparently played really inspired and gritty and their best game of the year, but still... wtf.

J 04 @ Pittsburgh
J 07 @ DePaul
J 11 Syracuse
J 14 Providence
J 20 @ Marquette
J 24 Georgetown
J 28 Villanova
F 01 @ WVU
F 04 @ Louisville

Ugh, we might start BE play 0-9.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

Pitt is finally ranked. #23 Pitt beats #22 Nebraska to move to 11-0.

[OCCoug]

Pitt is finally ranked. #23 Pitt beats #22 Nebraska to move to 11-0.

By #22 Nebraska, do you mean #24 Wisconsin?

[husker_blitz]

By #22 Nebraska, do you mean #24 Wisconsin?
Must be, because Nebraska being ranked in basketball would only occur on April Fools Day.

[OCCoug]

Must be, because Nebraska being ranked in basketball would only occur on April Fools Day.

That's why I decided to look it up! [laugh] :D

[Larry Fitzgerald]

Yeah. You guys can see how closely I follow basketball.

[killerBsaturn]

Well Marquette opens the Big East Season with a win over Connecticut. UConn didn't feel like playing defense, or shooting free throws.

[Marquette]

Well Marquette opens the Big East Season with a win over Connecticut. UConn didn't feel like playing defense, or shooting free throws.

Marquette absolutley dominated. Novak 41 points 16 rebounds. He played out of his mind.

[OCCoug]

Marquette absolutley dominated. Novak 41 points 16 rebounds. He played out of his mind.

Congrats on the Big W. Sounds like Novak was on absolute fire.

[CJ_24]

Marquette absolutley dominated. Novak 41 points 16 rebounds. He played out of his mind.
do you know why Matthews didn't play? (i didn't watch the game but his name isn't in the box score)

[killerBsaturn]

do you know why Matthews didn't play? (i didn't watch the game but his name isn't in the box score)
Is that the other freshman, I think I heard the announcers say he injured his leg in the last game.

[Marquette]

Wes Matthews didn't play and Dominic James cramped up I think. I hope it was cramps anyways. Jerel McNeal, another Marquette freshman had 19 points and 12 rebounds.

[OCCoug]

Damn you, Pitt [down]:(

100-97, 2 OT

[Kig Skinny]

Georgetown will be in the mix for the Big East title.

[LikeWhoa20]

Damn you, Pitt [down]:(

100-97, 2 OT
lol I love the Pitt-ND series. What is this, the 4th straight year that a game between the two of them has gone into overtime? That was one hell of a game.

As for UConn, that was the best thing that could have happened to them. They got complacent in their first game with Marcus Williams back and got their asses handed to them. Give them about 3 or 4 weeks and they'll be back to playing as a top 3 team consistently.

Anyone watch the Nova-Louisville game? I'll take Nova over any team in the country right now.

And Georgetown will reach the NCAAs, but there's no way they are competing for the Big East title. Not with UConn and Villanova in front of them, much less the 4 or 5 other NCAA caliber teams in the Big East.

[Chase56]

Villanova has just been Pittsnogle'd.

At Home too.

[OCCoug]

lol I love the Pitt-ND series. What is this, the 4th straight year that a game between the two of them has gone into overtime? That was one hell of a game.


Actually I don't remember any other OT games between us other than this in recent years, but yes, they're generally always close. Too bad we seem to lose to them every time! [Like 2-6 in last 8 probably] [laugh] [down]

[LikeWhoa20]

Villanova has just been Pittsnogle'd.

At Home too.
Once again it's that West Virginia zone. 'Nova shot extremely well but turned the ball over 20+ times against the 1-3-1. I'm sure WVU can make another NCAA run against teams that are unfamiliar with their style of play.

[maniacpilot931]

Once again it's that West Virginia zone. 'Nova shot extremely well but turned the ball over 20+ times against the 1-3-1. I'm sure WVU can make another NCAA run against teams that are unfamiliar with their style of play.


That and playing shitty defense yesterday didnt help. Jay Wright outcoached....ouch.

[LikeWhoa20]

That and playing shitty defense yesterday didnt help. Jay Wright outcoached....ouch.
Yeah I didn't get to see the game, but I read in the recap that Nova's gameplan was to take away the 3's and not worry about how often they got beat on backdoor cuts. WTF?! With a team like West Virginia, they are going to get their open looks from downtown no matter what, so you might as well focus on taking away the easy stuff. I'd much rather give up an open 3 here and there rather than letting them get layup after layup!

[maniacpilot931]

Yeah I didn't get to see the game, but I read in the recap that Nova's gameplan was to take away the 3's and not worry about how often they got beat on backdoor cuts. WTF?! With a team like West Virginia, they are going to get their open looks from downtown no matter what, so you might as well focus on taking away the easy stuff. I'd much rather give up an open 3 here and there rather than letting them get layup after layup!

I was at the game. No change in the defense at the half. They continued to let the cuts while Gansey Herber and Pittsnogle drilled threes. Gansey has got to be the most underrated player in the big east.

[LikeWhoa20]

I was at the game. No change in the defense at the half. They continued to let the cuts while Gansey Herber and Pittsnogle drilled threes. Gansey has got to be the most underrated player in the big east.
Without a doubt, Gansey can do it all. It pisses me off to see Pittsnogle get all the credit because he's a big man that can shoot with a memorable name. Gansey is the guy that makes that team go. I hope they get another good draw in the NCAAs because they can definitely make another big run with this group of seniors.

[OCCoug]

WTF... Notre Dame is a 1.5 pt favorite over Syracuse??? C'mon Syracuse isn't that bad this year are they? [laugh]

[doh]

WTF... Notre Dame is a 1.5 pt favorite over Syracuse??? C'mon Syracuse isn't that bad this year are they? [laugh]
eh it's their second road game of the year (2 games at MSG and one at Towsend just for G-Mac) so that's probably why they are an underdog.

[LikeWhoa20]

ND has played a lot of teams tough, and the 'Cuse have been far from impressive so far this year.

[OCCoug]

ND has played a lot of teams tough.

You're right.

But it scares me because the teams we've been playing tough have been named IPFW, Columbia, and Wofford. :p

[Rutgers Mike]

Rutgers took Villanova to OT at the RAC, but when you only have 1 scoring threat, you're in trouble.

[LikeWhoa20]

Rutgers took Villanova to OT at the RAC, but when you only have 1 scoring threat, you're in trouble.
Trap game for Villanova + one of the toughest places to play in the country = one hell of a game. I really thought Rutgers had them given how difficult it is to win at the RAC. That's a tough loss.

[maniacpilot931]

Trap game for Villanova + one of the toughest places to play in the country = one hell of a game. I really thought Rutgers had them given how difficult it is to win at the RAC. That's a tough loss.

You say that but Nova gave Rutgers their worst home loss last year in the RACs history with essentially the same two teams. Where the fuck did our defense go Jay?

[Rutgers Mike]

You say that but Nova gave Rutgers their worst home loss last year in the RACs history with essentially the same two teams. Where the fuck did our defense go Jay?

Last year's team quit on the season. Quincy Douby is playing as good as anyone in the Big East right now.

[LikeWhoa20]

You say that but Nova gave Rutgers their worst home loss last year in the RACs history with essentially the same two teams. Where the fuck did our defense go Jay?
Rutgers is a much improved team this season and Villanova was caught in between two big games, so it should be expected that they would be a little flat for the game at the RAC.

[OCCoug]

ND's offense was on fire today against Providence.

52 in the first half, 92 in the game.

What did Brey tell his team at half time?
"Let's try to get 100".

Too bad he didn't notice Providence had 40 at halftime and didn't attempt to crack down on D as they fiinished with around 77.

"Good `D' at key times," he said. "We have a new theme: If people are going to shoot 48 (percent) on us, we're going to shoot 55 percent. Look, we're an offensive program, let's not kid anybody. Those are the kinds of kids we recruit, then we try to get them to defend a little bit."

“I told them before the game that the tone and theme is that we don’t have to win,” Brey said. “I wanted us to put numbers up like we’ve been putting numbers up and be a little better defensively than we have been. If you do that, we’ll have a heck of a chance of winning.”

WTF?

Oh well, a win's a win and I'll take it. Offense looked real special today so that's great.

[Rutgers Mike]

Nice OT win over Depaul for Rutgers. It shouldn't have had to go to OT, but the Knights really turned it on in OT even without their 2 best interior defenders fouled out, and Douby and Inman with 4 fouls each.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

Pitt now 14-0 after downing Louisville in Kentucky.

[doh]

I was at the Uconn-Syracuse game last night. UConn went on a 12-0 run to start the game, then when SU came within 21-17, they went on a 15-0 run. Pretty impressive performance from the Huskies. There were quite a few puzzling calls and Syracuse had 3 players foul out, but UConn looked like the better team. Syracuse just wasn't hitting shots, G Mac and Devendorf both had bad games and Boone/Gay had very good games.

[LikeWhoa20]

UConn showed what they are capable of last night with that 19-0 run. They're in a whole other class above Syracuse. Now that Marcus Williams is getting more comfortable with all of his teammates, this team is really going to be scary come March.

[henman2419]

Does anyone else enjoy watching West Virginia play? They turn the ball over a lot, but they get just as many with that 1-3-1. I think they could definitely do some damage in the tourney, especially if they get through the clusterf*** known as the Big East.

[maniacpilot931]

fuck seton hall. Boy did Nova look flat. Just glad they came out tonight with the W.

[LikeWhoa20]

Does anyone else enjoy watching West Virginia play? They turn the ball over a lot, but they get just as many with that 1-3-1. I think they could definitely do some damage in the tourney, especially if they get through the clusterf*** known as the Big East.
Hmm...well West Virginia has only turned the ball over 12 times in the last 2 games combined, so I would say they're very efficient with the basketball. But they are a lot of fun to watch. I used to play on a team that exclusively ran a 1-3-1 zone, so it's fun for me to watch they execute it so well at the college level.

As for 'Nova, I really wouldn't worry. In a stretch that was as tough as theirs was over the last couple weeks, how could you really get up for a home game against arguably the worst team in the Big East? They will be fine.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

Pitt/St. John's today at noon.

[maniacpilot931]

Nova/Cuse tonight at 6

[OCCoug]

ND lost by 2 @ Marquette.

So now, we're 1-4 in BE play. Beat Providence by like 20.

Lost @ Pitt (2OT), v Syracuse, @ Marquette, and @ Depaul by a TOTAL of 17 points. :([down]

[Chase56]

The Pittsnogle is in So Cal tonight, hide the women.

[Kig Skinny]

Duke at Georgetown at 1:30pm Go hoyas.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

The Pittsnogle is in So Cal tonight, hide the women.
Ha Pittsnogle is actually married. He had to take some time away from school because his wife was 8 months pregnant.

[Kig Skinny]

Ha Pittsnogle is actually married. He had to take some time away from school because his wife was 8 months pregnant.
Wow,he is so damn goofey looking. Hey that is how they are born and raised in West Virginia.

[maniacpilot931]

damn the big east is such a good conference.

[Kig Skinny]

Georgetown beating Duke and West Virginia beating UCLA should prove The Big East is the best basketball conference.

[Chase56]

Pittsnogle conquers LA.

Villanova is raping Syracuse, which isn't suprising.

[LikeWhoa20]

Pittsnogle conquers LA.

Villanova is raping Syracuse, which isn't suprising.
Pittsnogle had one of his worst games of the season out in L.A. today. Luckily for him, the real best player for WVU, Mike Gansey, dropped 24 on the Bruins and had the game-clinching play with the sweet pick-pocketing of Farmar.

[Carlbunga2001]

How is Devendorf doing at Syracuse? I watched him a few times when he was at Bay City Central, and though he put up good numbers, he never won anything with his team.

[maniacpilot931]

How is Devendorf doing at Syracuse? I watched him a few times when he was at Bay City Central, and though he put up good numbers, he never won anything with his team.

he isnt bad for a freshman. I would go so far as to say he is Syracuse's best player, at least tonight he looked like it. I think Gerry McNamara is the biggest overrated turd to ever come out of PA, so I would say Davendorf is a their best player. He had some freshman mistakes though, and just couldnt keep up with Novas guards. It seemed like he was overwhelmed at first and really underestimated Villanovas speed.

[doh]

How is Devendorf doing at Syracuse? I watched him a few times when he was at Bay City Central, and though he put up good numbers, he never won anything with his team.
I've actually had a couple of recitations with Eric last semester and one this semester, so I kinda know him. He played his senior year of HS at Oak Hill Academy.

He started out the year as the 6th man and midway through the year won the starting job. He has has a solid year so far, very good for a true freshmen, with the hilight of his year a 3 5-feet behind the line against Manhatten with less than 10 seconds to go to send it to OT. I think he's a very good point and a decent 2, but McNamara is a slightly better at the 1 right now so that's why Boehim puts him there. He plays with a lot of emotion, but I think his rep as a dirty trash talker is not warranted.

Him and Paul Harris next year and the following is going to be as good a backcourt as anyone in the Big East or maybe the country hands down. I'm looking forward to that.

[maniacpilot931]

Him and Paul Harris next year and the following is going to be as good a backcourt as anyone in the Big East or maybe the country hands down. I'm looking forward to that.

Nova will still have Nardi and Lowry, I think that would probably edge them in the big east because of the experience. Not to mention Sumpter being back, Nova will surely be a top 20 team next year.

[LikeWhoa20]

Nova will still have Nardi and Lowry, I think that would probably edge them in the big east because of the experience. Not to mention Sumpter being back, Nova will surely be a top 20 team next year.
And Dominic James and Jerel McNeal for Marquette would be my 2nd choice in the Big East next year.

[maniacpilot931]

And Dominic James and Jerel McNeal for Marquette would be my 2nd choice in the Big East next year.

I thought they looked very good against Uconn, well McNeal did, James took some poor shots. Pretty much dismantled them. I would agree.

[doh]

Nova will still have Nardi and Lowry, I think that would probably edge them in the big east because of the experience. Not to mention Sumpter being back, Nova will surely be a top 20 team next year.
I don't know, Andy Katz thinks Paul Harris is the best recruit in the country (including Greg Oden), but we will see. I didn't say I thought they would be the best, I said "as good as anyone".

[maniacpilot931]

I don't know, Andy Katz thinks Paul Harris is the best recruit in the country (including Greg Oden), but we will see. I didn't say I thought they would be the best, I said "as good as anyone".

Lets wait til he gets to college. There has been far more busts than college freshman exceeding expectations. Especially at that position. GMac and Carmello were the exception. Ive seen Pauls tapes, he looks pretty good. Ive also seen Greg Oden and was not that impressed.

[OCCoug]

Interesting stat from tonight:

Pittsburgh: 23-35 from the line
Syracuse: 3-5 from the line

Game was in Pittsburgh, by the way.

[doh]

Interesting stat from tonight:

Pittsburgh: 23-35 from the line
Syracuse: 3-5 from the line

Game was in Pittsburgh, by the way.
Yeah, Syracuse didn't play that well, but that is just a joke.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

Levon Kendall is the best Canadian basketball player since...Bart and Milhouse in that one episode with McBain's daughter?

[OCCoug]

God DAMMIT!

So we're now 1-5 in Big East.

Yes, Colin Falls made a 4 point play with 2 seconds left to tie it and send it into OT.

We lost 85-82 in 2OT to Georgetown.

This just isn't nice. This is painful.

[LikeWhoa20]

I was wrong earlier in the season when I said it was Pittsburgh that always had OT games against ND. It was G'Town that always had the OT thrillers with the Irish, and tonight was no different. Sadly I missed this one since I had a night class to go to tonight. Sounds like it was crazy once again.

[OCCoug]

I was wrong earlier in the season when I said it was Pittsburgh that always had OT games against ND. It was G'Town that always had the OT thrillers with the Irish, and tonight was no different. Sadly I missed this one since I had a night class to go to tonight. Sounds like it was crazy once again.

I forgot it was on ESPNU and only caught the last couple minutes and OT.

Another great last minute comeback and a tough fight in OT coming up just short.

One thing I'm proud of the team for is that they'll always give you 100% effort on the court.

[Kig Skinny]

God DAMMIT!

So we're now 1-5 in Big East.

Yes, Colin Falls made a 4 point play with 2 seconds left to tie it and send it into OT.

We lost 85-82 in 2OT to Georgetown.

This just isn't nice. This is painful.
Colin Falls deserves an emmy award for the flop against my hoyas. What a homer call.

[Rutgers Mike]

Yay! Rutgers finally won a game.

[LikeWhoa20]

Big win for Rutgers. Even with Louisville struggling, they are still a top-notch program and a win over them means a lot.

Do you know if Quincy Douby is planning to stay for his senior year next season? The Knights will have a very special team next year if he chooses to stick around the RAC.

[OCCoug]

DAMN man. Nova gets a tip in with 1 second left to win 72-70.

What do we have to do to win a game? !!!! 1-6 now in league with the 6 losses by like a combined 20 points.

God dammit. This is too cruel.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

Pitt struggles to beat Marquette. Nothing against Marquette, but Pitt should've won a lot bigger. If they play like they did today, UConn is going to roll.

[LikeWhoa20]

DAMN man. Nova gets a tip in with 1 second left to win 72-70.

What do we have to do to win a game? !!!! 1-6 now in league with the 6 losses by like a combined 20 points.

God dammit. This is too cruel.
Great comeback by the Irish to make it exciting down the stretch. I feel bad for Chris Quinn. He's definitely on my 1st team All-Big East. It's just too bad that he gets no help. 6 Big East losses by 21 total points now.

[Rutgers Mike]

Big win for Rutgers. Even with Louisville struggling, they are still a top-notch program and a win over them means a lot.

Do you know if Quincy Douby is planning to stay for his senior year next season? The Knights will have a very special team next year if he chooses to stick around the RAC.

Who really knows what's going through his mind. He's not ready for the NBA right now mentally tho. There have been transfer rumors about Douby the last 2 seasons, and while he wouldn't transfer he might get bad advice.

That brings me to my next point. The vast majority of posters on the Rutgers' rivals board want Gary Waters fired, especially after the awful performance against Providence the other day. If Waters goes, I think you have to figure a guy or 2 transfer, plus Douby leaves early.

[LikeWhoa20]

Who really knows what's going through his mind. He's not ready for the NBA right now mentally tho. There have been transfer rumors about Douby the last 2 seasons, and while he wouldn't transfer he might get bad advice.

That brings me to my next point. The vast majority of posters on the Rutgers' rivals board want Gary Waters fired, especially after the awful performance against Providence the other day. If Waters goes, I think you have to figure a guy or 2 transfer, plus Douby leaves early.
If Waters is fired, you're looking at at least another 2 to 4 years of rebuilding before you have any shot of building up a team equal to the caliber of next year's possible squad. Look at St. John's. Next year they could be a solid team, but it took them another 3 years to start all over after firing Mike Jarvis.

[Rutgers Mike]

If Waters is fired, you're looking at at least another 2 to 4 years of rebuilding before you have any shot of building up a team equal to the caliber of next year's possible squad. Look at St. John's. Next year they could be a solid team, but it took them another 3 years to start all over after firing Mike Jarvis.

I agree to a certain extent, but the next coach is already on staff in Fred Hill Jr, who was added as Associate Head Coach before this season. He is a great recruiter who was crucial in bringing Foye, Ray, Nardi and others to Villanova, plus Griffin, and some other guys to Seton Hall a few years ago. He's also the only reason we still have a shot at landing Lance Thomas. He has some pretty good coaching bloodlines too. His uncle is the head coach of the Magic, and his dad has been the long time

As far as St John's goes, yeah they were setback by getting rid of Jarvis, but they also had that scandal with the strippers in Pittsburgh. Plus it's only been a little more than 2 years since Jarvis was fired, and they are doing fairly well.

I don't advocate firing Waters right now, but ask me again in 6 weeks.

[Kig Skinny]

It's all about the hoyas! Way to go,crushing the bearcats 76-57!

[LikeWhoa20]

I agree to a certain extent, but the next coach is already on staff in Fred Hill Jr, who was added as Associate Head Coach before this season. He is a great recruiter who was crucial in bringing Foye, Ray, Nardi and others to Villanova, plus Griffin, and some other guys to Seton Hall a few years ago. He's also the only reason we still have a shot at landing Lance Thomas. He has some pretty good coaching bloodlines too. His uncle is the head coach of the Magic, and his dad has been the long time

As far as St John's goes, yeah they were setback by getting rid of Jarvis, but they also had that scandal with the strippers in Pittsburgh. Plus it's only been a little more than 2 years since Jarvis was fired, and they are doing fairly well.

I don't advocate firing Waters right now, but ask me again in 6 weeks.
I knew about them picking up Hill, but I didn't know he was the heir apparent. With somebody like Waters, I would wait until he gets the talent, and then see if he can produce. That will tell you if he is the right guy for the job.

[Rutgers Mike]

I knew about them picking up Hill, but I didn't know he was the heir apparent. With somebody like Waters, I would wait until he gets the talent, and then see if he can produce. That will tell you if he is the right guy for the job.

Yeah, but thats part of the problem. Waters recruiting has not been good. Throw in 2 late season collapses (01-02 and 03-04) and the team quitting on him twice (02-03 and 04-05) and it has to put him on the hot seat.

If he goes 5-4 and wins a BE Tourney game he probably saves his job.

As far as Hill being the heir apparent goes, if Seton Hall fires Louie Orr after this year, which seems pretty likely to me, I could see them going after Hill Jr, which would force Mulcahy's hand, like Rutgers' persuit of Jay Wright 5 years ago, forced Villanova's hand.

[Chase56]

Louisville isn't making the tourney, and possibly won't make the Big East tourney.

CUSA's influx of teams haven't been that impressive.

[LikeWhoa20]

Louisville isn't making the tourney, and possibly won't make the Big East tourney.

CUSA's influx of teams haven't been that impressive.
Well Marquette has been impressive given that they have such a young team (starting 3 freshmen). Cincinnati was performing very well until one of their key seniors, Armein Kirkland, went out for the rest of the year with an injury. South Florida sucks and we all knew that lol. And Louisville just hasn't gotten on track at all, with their injury issues and inability to find a rotation that works.

I would say over time 3 of those 4 teams will consistently be big players in the Big East.

[Rutgers Mike]

.

I would say over time 3 of those 4 teams will consistently be big players in the Big East.

I disagree. Louisville will be really good, for the most part, as long as Pitino is there. Cincinnati should be good, but then there are too many decent to good teams in the league for a 3rd team to become a big time player. Besides USF, there isn't a team in the league that can't be good. Marquette will be a big time player when the football teams split off in 2010 tho.

[maniacpilot931]

Yeah, but thats part of the problem. Waters recruiting has not been good. Throw in 2 late season collapses (01-02 and 03-04) and the team quitting on him twice (02-03 and 04-05) and it has to put him on the hot seat.

If he goes 5-4 and wins a BE Tourney game he probably saves his job.

As far as Hill being the heir apparent goes, if Seton Hall fires Louie Orr after this year, which seems pretty likely to me, I could see them going after Hill Jr, which would force Mulcahy's hand, like Rutgers' persuit of Jay Wright 5 years ago, forced Villanova's hand.

Hill will be your head coach in 2 years. There no other reason he would make the lateral move from Nova to Rutgers without being promised more money. By the way, he recruited Nardi and Foye, not Ray. Everyone thought he was the best recruiter here at Nova. Yeah he did get Foye, and he does have an inside track in NJ, but I can live without him. Still hasnt gotten Lance Thomas to go with Rutgers huh?

[LikeWhoa20]

I disagree. Louisville will be really good, for the most part, as long as Pitino is there. Cincinnati should be good, but then there are too many decent to good teams in the league for a 3rd team to become a big time player. Besides USF, there isn't a team in the league that can't be good. Marquette will be a big time player when the football teams split off in 2010 tho.
When I say big time player, I didn't mean like contending to win the Big East. I just meant that they would finish top half in the conference and reach the NCAAs on a pretty consistent basis with a chance to make some noise in the Big Dance.

[doh]

Marquette will be a big time player when the football teams split off in 2010 tho.
I haven't heard about this.. is this just a rumor out there or a fact?

[Rutgers Mike]

I haven't heard about this.. is this just a rumor out there or a fact?

A bit of both. 16 teams is way too many for a conference tho. When it happens, I don't know who to expect, but a 9th team will most likely be added to the conference.

[killerBsaturn]

I haven't heard about this.. is this just a rumor out there or a fact?

When BC left the Big East the remaining schools and the CUSA schools signed an agreement to stay together for 5 years. It was done so that when the Football schools split away from the Catholic schools they will still have an automatic bid to the Dance. The NCAA states that 6 schools need to be playing in the same conference for 5 years in order to get an auto bid to the Dance. While no one connected to the Big East will talk about the split. It is pretty much believed to be a done deal by fans.

[OCCoug]

When BC left the Big East the remaining schools and the CUSA schools signed an agreement to stay together for 5 years. It was done so that when the Football schools split away from the Catholic schools they will still have an automatic bid to the Dance. The NCAA states that 6 schools need to be playing in the same conference for 5 years in order to get an auto bid to the Dance. While no one connected to the Big East will talk about the split. It is pretty much believed to be a done deal by fans.

Louisville, Cincinnati, WVU, Connecticut, South Florida, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse

Notre Dame, Xavier, Dayton, Marquette, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Georgetown, DePaul, Providence, and 2 others [St. Joes, ?] making a 12 team Catholic League?

Is that how fans see it?

[Rutgers Mike]

Louisville, Cincinnati, WVU, Connecticut, South Florida, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse

Notre Dame, Xavier, Dayton, Marquette, St. Johns, Seton Hall, Villanova, Georgetown, DePaul, Providence, and 2 others [St. Joes, ?] making a 12 team Catholic League?

Is that how fans see it?

Yes. Maybe add a Memphis, Central Florida or East Carolina with the football teams.

[killerBsaturn]

Yes. Maybe add a Memphis, Central Florida or East Carolina with the football teams.
I have also heard that Notre Dame might stay with the football schools, because they have a pact to play some Big East teams each year.

[LikeWhoa20]

Helluva week for Seton Hall. Back-to-back road wins over top 25 teams. First NC State by double digits, and then a win today at Syracuse.

[Rutgers Mike]

Helluva week for Seton Hall. Back-to-back road wins over top 25 teams. First NC State by double digits, and then a win today at Syracuse.

Maybe Rutgers has a chance Wednesday. Nah. :(

[maniacpilot931]

I have also heard that Notre Dame might stay with the football schools, because they have a pact to play some Big East teams each year.

not going to happen. The catholic conference that is. Need to keep at least a couple of the powers together. Spliting Syracuse and UConn away from Georgetown and Nova would be a horrible idea.

That and I never ever want to see Nova and St Joes in the same conference.

[LikeWhoa20]

Maybe Rutgers has a chance Wednesday. Nah. :(
I would give them a great shot because SH has to come out flat after winning those two road games.

[doh]

I would give them a great shot because SH has to come out flat after winning those two road games.
Actually Rutgers is playing at the Dome and yes, they do have a chance.

Pahetic performance tonight... I really don't know what to say. I know Boeheim is trying to teach the team discipline and such, but his taking out Devendorf for a 10 minute stretch for just doing a slam and hold onto the rim just a bit may have cost SU the game. Watkins had 4 slam dunks that he just dropped. G-Mac had a poor shooting day and didn't score for a 25 minute strech. Roberts had a pretty solid game, but continued his woes and the line and Nichols was decent as usual, but nothing special. Pretty sorry game.
When BC left the Big East the remaining schools and the CUSA schools signed an agreement to stay together for 5 years. It was done so that when the Football schools split away from the Catholic schools they will still have an automatic bid to the Dance. The NCAA states that 6 schools need to be playing in the same conference for 5 years in order to get an auto bid to the Dance
I could be wrong, but it might be you need atleast 9 schools. I remember when the WAC split up into the MWC and WAC that there was talk of this happening (the WAC back then had 8 teams), but they petetioned the NCAA and ended up getting an auto bid. I don't think it would really matter all that much anyways because there will be a tournament caliber team in that group anyways.

As for adding teams, I really don't know why they added USF instead of Memphis. The Tigers have been are starting to solidify themselves as an elite team on the hardwood and are a solid team on the football field. I guess USF has more upside, but Memphis is still a very good football/basketball school. Maybe even add them instead of Marquette (no football, too far west)

[killerBsaturn]

USF was added for the exposure in Florida, nothing more, nothing less.

[LikeWhoa20]

Actually Rutgers is playing at the Dome and yes, they do have a chance.

G-Mac had a poor shooting day and didn't score for a 25 minute strech.
Sorry, I thought he meant that Rutgers was playing Seton Hall on Wednesday.

As for McNamara, doesn't he have a "poor shooting day" about every other game? The guy has shot below 40% from the field for 2+ years now. I know he doesn't have a lot of help to take the pressure off him, but I think he also still struggles in terms of shot selection and is a very streaky shooter.

[doh]

As for McNamara, doesn't he have a "poor shooting day" about every other game? The guy has shot below 40% from the field for 2+ years now. I know he doesn't have a lot of help to take the pressure off him, but I think he also still struggles in terms of shot selection and is a very streaky shooter.
You hit the nail right on the head. He has had only 2 good shooting days in Big East play. I really think they should put Devendorf at the point more often and have him create for G-Mac.

From seeing him game in and game out, he's been a much better distributor and penetrator that I thought, but at the same time not as talented shooting as I believed he was. He plays with a lot of heart though which I really respect.

[maniacpilot931]

As for McNamara, doesn't he have a "poor shooting day" about every other game? The guy has shot below 40% from the field for 2+ years now. I know he doesn't have a lot of help to take the pressure off him, but I think he also still struggles in terms of shot selection and is a very streaky shooter.

He is without a doubt the most overrated player in the big east in recent memory. The kid is still riding on his NC three years ago. No doubt he has regressed as a player, imo. BS that he ever makes first team Big East.

[doh]

He is without a doubt the most overrated player in the big east in recent memory. The kid is still riding on his NC three years ago. No doubt he has regressed as a player, imo. BS that he ever makes first team Big East.
I wouldn't say he has regressed. His game is just different.

[Rutgers Mike]

You hit the nail right on the head. He has had only 2 good shooting days in Big East play.

It'll be 3 after Wednesday. [down] Rutgers is a horrible road team and that's not gonna change this week.

[LikeWhoa20]

I wouldn't say he has regressed. His game is just different.
His role has definitely changed since Carmelo left. In his freshman year, he was just a shooter and nothing else was really required of him. Now he is expected to do everything (score, distribute, run a team in general), and although he has the tools to pull it off, I think he shoots far too often to be considered a point guard that makes his teammates better.

And there's no way that he finishes 1st Team All-Big East. The 3 guards that should be locks are Chris Quinn, Randy Foye, and Mike Gansey.

[Rutgers Mike]

And there's no way that he finishes 1st Team All-Big East. The 3 guards that should be locks are Chris Quinn, Randy Foye, and Mike Gansey.

And Quincy Douby. :p

[LikeWhoa20]

And Quincy Douby. :p
He's the 4th guy on my list.

[Kig Skinny]

Sorry, I thought he meant that Rutgers was playing Seton Hall on Wednesday.

As for McNamara, doesn't he have a "poor shooting day" about every other game? The guy has shot below 40% from the field for 2+ years now. I know he doesn't have a lot of help to take the pressure off him, but I think he also still struggles in terms of shot selection and is a very streaky shooter.
Losing that presence of Hakim Warrick is the biggest reason G-Mac isn't playing as well in previous seasons. All the attention is now on him.

[maniacpilot931]

Louisville is in a world of hurt right now, getting beat by Nova tonight. The cats shot 55% from three. I think Louisville shot like 52%. A fun game to watch.

[penn_state_xc]

Is it just me, or does it seem Villanova has a knack for taking a signficant 15-20 point lead in the 2nd half, only to allow the opponent to whittle it down to 5 or less in the final minutes? This may very well be what does them in come the Big Dance.

[LikeWhoa20]

Is it just me, or does it seem Villanova has a knack for taking a signficant 15-20 point lead in the 2nd half, only to allow the opponent to whittle it down to 5 or less in the final minutes? This may very well be what does them in come the Big Dance.
I think this happens to them because they are more dependent on outside shooting than any other team. Now they have the best set of guards in the country, so their system works as well as any other in college hoops. But when they go cold for long stretches (ex: at Texas, 2nd halves against Notre Dame and Louisville), they don't go to their big men inside to get some easy buckets. But that's what they do: they will win/lose based on the success of their four guards.

[maniacpilot931]

Is it just me, or does it seem Villanova has a knack for taking a signficant 15-20 point lead in the 2nd half, only to allow the opponent to whittle it down to 5 or less in the final minutes? This may very well be what does them in come the Big Dance.

Yes, it is very true. They have had this problem for three years now. It just always happens. They have droughts. But there are a few games that once they getting going they dont let up (Kansas last year for example). The guards just get tired and there are times when Foye and Ray just disappear. Fortunately, they know how to win these games, and win a high % of them.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

I can't fault Pitt for losing by six or whatever to UConn. They played like the #9 team in the country playing the #1. It happens. Good game.

[Rutgers Mike]

Rutgers University junior forward Adrian Hill likely will miss the rest of the season after further tests on his surgically repaired left knee revealed a possible torn meniscus.

[maniacpilot931]

Rutgers University junior forward Adrian Hill likely will miss the rest of the season after further tests on his surgically repaired left knee revealed a possible torn meniscus.

Probably all those ghettoed out socks and sweatbands weighing his kneecaps down. :p just messing, sorry to hear that man.

[killerBsaturn]

I can't fault Pitt for losing by six or whatever to UConn. They played like the #9 team in the country playing the #1. It happens. Good game.
Grey is the Truth.

[Rutgers Mike]

My goddamn f'n heart. I can't take this shit anymore. Great game by Douby tho. :(

[doh]

Terrance Roberts for 3333333 baby. Wow, a lot of respect for Doby but great game by SU without G-Mac. Big East is brutal this year.

That would have been a complete embaressment to the University to lose to Rutgers in B-Ball and Football this year. Thank god that didn't happen.

[Rutgers Mike]

That would have been a complete embaressment to the University to lose to Rutgers in B-Ball and Football this year. Thank god that didn't happen.

It'll happen next year.

[OCCoug]

Sweet, so this week we had the pleasure of losing by 1 on the road to top 10 West Virginia.

Louisville's next guys, let's brainstorm ways they can break our hearts on Saturday.

[Marquette]

Marquette beat St. John's by 20 tonight, 81-61 to move to 6-3 in conference play. Next up for MU is Villanova. This one should be a great game. Wes Matthews has now returned for MU and he should give them a nice lift.

[LikeWhoa20]

Marquette beat St. John's by 20 tonight, 81-61 to move to 6-3 in conference play. Next up for MU is Villanova. This one should be a great game. Wes Matthews has now returned for MU and he should give them a nice lift.
Where is the Villanova/Marquette being played at?

My heart goes out to both Rutgers and Notre Dame. Next to my favorite teams, I'm pulling for them more than anyone else at this point. Rutgers has a real nice group of players and a star in Douby that reminds me a lot of the old BC days with Troy Bell. As for Notre Dame, I've got as much respect for Chris Quinn than for anybody else in the country, and Mike Brey has always run a real respectful program. Seeing him be eclipsed by Tommy Amaker as the top Coach K protege makes me cringe (I'll never forgive Amaker for ruining what could have been a dominant Seton Hall squad a few years back). I'm really hoping that Quinn at least gets to see the NIT in his final season.

[NDstud21]

My heart goes out to both Rutgers and Notre Dame. Next to my favorite teams, I'm pulling for them more than anyone else at this point.

Exactly. Notre Dame has lost their 7 Big East games by a combined 23 points. Granted, they make some dumb decisions down the stretch but it's just downright disheartening.

[Kig Skinny]

Exactly. Notre Dame has lost their 7 Big East games by a combined 23 points. Granted, they make some dumb decisions down the stretch but it's just downright disheartening.
I have never seen a team lose that many games by such close margins.

[maniacpilot931]

Where is the Villanova/Marquette being played at?


at nova

[OCCoug]

Sweet, so this week we had the pleasure of losing by 1 on the road to top 10 West Virginia.

Louisville's next guys, let's brainstorm ways they can break our hearts on Saturday.

Hmm, how about buzzer beating three pointer to tie it at regulation followed by a 3 point overtime win?

[killerBsaturn]

UConn blows Indiana away. Big East best conference in the land, and UConn is easily the best team in the Land. Eat your heart out Duke.

[penn_state_xc]

I agree, UConn is currently my favorite to win it all. They are the most balanced team in America, they got perimeter shooters, bangers down low, and most importantly they play DEFENSE.

Also, I feel awful for Mike Brey at ND, he is probably gonna lose his job after all these close-but-no-cigar defeats.

[LikeWhoa20]

I agree, UConn is currently my favorite to win it all. They are the most balanced team in America, they got perimeter shooters, bangers down low, and most importantly they play DEFENSE.

Also, I feel awful for Mike Brey at ND, he is probably gonna lose his job after all these close-but-no-cigar defeats.
Brey won't lose his job. But he won't be the media darling that he was as Coach K's top protege.

As for UConn, they've been my pick to win it all since October. Watching them in person today clinched that pick for me. I'll take Josh Boone as a defensive post player over anybody else in the country (including Shelden Williams). Marcus Williams makes the right decision in distributing the ball only, oh, about 95% of the time. It's like he's putting on a clinic out there with how he controls the game. The last piece to the puzzle was getting Rudy Gay to be more assertive. I think they've found it now with how Gay has taken over the last two games against Pitt and Indiana.

[OCCoug]

Marquette shot .491 overall, .381 from three; Villanova shot .328 and .259.

From the free throw line: 23-27 for Villanova, 5-7 for Marquette.

52 of Nova's 72 came from Foye and Ray.

[doh]

Marquette shot .491 overall, .381 from three; Villanova shot .328 and .259.

From the free throw line: 23-27 for Villanova, 5-7 for Marquette.

52 of Nova's 72 came from Foye and Ray.
Yeah, I saw most of the 2nd Half of that game and Nova definately got a few calls. I haven't been that impressed with them the times I watched... I really don't see them going that far in the tournament.

[Rutgers Mike]

Rutgers vs Seton Hall at the CAA tomorrow. I can't remember the last time Rutgers won there.

Edit: Feb 4, 2001

[Kig Skinny]

Holy shit the bad luck for ND continues again. Simply amazing to lose that many games that close and by the ways they continue to lose.

[maniacpilot931]

Yeah, I saw most of the 2nd Half of that game and Nova definately got a few calls. I haven't been that impressed with them the times I watched... I really don't see them going that far in the tournament.

eh, you cant blow every team out by 30. As long as they have they senior leadership to win games then they will be alright. True the may not have looked legit last night, but they step up in big games.

[Rutgers Mike]

JR Inman is out 4-6 weeks with a fractured fibula. Rutgers is thusly F*cked.

[OCCoug]

JR Inman is out 4-6 weeks with a fractured fibula. Rutgers is thusly F*cked.

Rutgers is 3-33 on the road in the Big East under their current coach. ND needs to win tommorrow. We're probably going to need 6 wins to make the BE tourny so let's start tomorrow!

[Rutgers Mike]

Rutgers is 3-33 on the road in the Big East under their current coach. ND needs to win tommorrow. We're probably going to need 6 wins to make the BE tourny so let's start tomorrow!

And that is why Gary Waters must go. Losing on the road to UConn or SU or 'Nova is one thing, but losing to Miami, Va Tech and USF when it happens is rediculous. Gary must go. [down]

[Rutgers Mike]

Rutgers sucks.

[doh]

UConn.... best team in the country right now. Can't really say anything more about them.

[LikeWhoa20]

UConn.... best team in the country right now. Can't really say anything more about them.
That's for sure. They're the only team that's consistently dominant right now. Once they get up by 15, you know they aren't letting the opposition back in the game.

[maniacpilot931]

That's for sure. They're the only team that's consistently dominant right now. Once they get up by 15, you know they aren't letting the opposition back in the game.

#4Nova and #1Uconn on Monday night, should be a great game.

[LikeWhoa20]

#4Nova and #1Uconn on Monday night, should be a great game.
I can't wait for that one. Nation's best frontcourt versus nation's best backcourt. Complete opposites. Such a small % of UConn's FG attempts are treys, whereas it's the exact other way around with 'Nova.

[NDstud21]

#4Nova and #1Uconn on Monday night, should be a great game.

Will Nardi be back in time for the game?

[maniacpilot931]

Will Nardi be back in time for the game?


yes, day to day

[killerBsaturn]

I can't wait for that one. Nation's best frontcourt versus nation's best backcourt. Complete opposites. Such a small % of UConn's FG attempts are treys, whereas it's the exact other way around with 'Nova.

Except I would say the difference between UConn's guards and Nova's guards is a lot closer than the difference between the UConn's bigs and Nova's bigs. That will be the difference in the game.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

LMAO at the "the people behind me can't see" sign at the Pitt/WVU game.

[LikeWhoa20]

Except I would say the difference between UConn's guards and Nova's guards is a lot closer than the difference between the UConn's bigs and Nova's bigs. That will be the difference in the game.
True. I would take Marcus Williams over any other PG in the country. And I still have no clue who will be able to stick Rudy Gay.

[Larry Fitzgerald]

There's something inherently wrong with using the "Backyard Brawl" moniker for the basketball match-up. Do they call the Texas-OU game the "Red River Shootout"?

[Kig Skinny]

Nice victory for Pitt. My hoyas keep kicking ass tonight destroying St. John's 64-41.

[LikeWhoa20]

Nice victory for Pitt. My hoyas keep kicking ass tonight destroying St. John's 64-41.
I'll be curious to see how G'Town does in the tourney this year. They have a mix of experience and youth, and it'd be everyone's first appearance in the Dance. Usually, when you combine a team's first appearance in the Dance along with high expectations, it's a recipe for disaster. But this Hoyas team has been so impressive of late that given the right draw in the bracket, they could really make a run.

As for Pitt, very nice win. Their defense was suffocating the whole night. So long as they don't forget about Aaron Gray for such long stretches like they did tonight, they will be really tough to beat in March. I wouldn't worry about WVU too much either. They had a rough night on the offensive end, but the whole night I felt like they would have pulled it out if they could just get hot for one more mini-stretch like they had at the end of the first half. It's not like them to only have one stretch like that in an entire game.

[maniacpilot931]

True. I would take Marcus Williams over any other PG in the country. And I still have no clue who will be able to stick Rudy Gay.

Curtis Sumpter[down]

However, I am not worried about matchup problems. I think the UNC team from last year was more talented than this years UConn team, so I am not too woried about the matchups, after all, UConn will have to deal with matchup problems on their end as well.

[LikeWhoa20]

Curtis Sumpter[down]

However, I am not worried about matchup problems. I think the UNC team from last year was more talented than this years UConn team, so I am not too woried about the matchups, after all, UConn will have to deal with matchup problems on their end as well.
True. Plus, Oklahoma's trio of Gray, Bookout, and Everett is pretty close to UConn's trio of Boone, Armstrong, and Williams. And Villanova had no trouble in routing the Sooners. They should have won AT Texas (only 3 big men that can match UConn's step-for-step) if not for a horrible shooting day. Like I said, the only X-factor is Gay. It will also be interesting to see how UConn's shot blockers affect the 'Cats' penetration in the lane. They can't expect to win a game like this from just shooting treys.

[Rutgers Mike]

Rutgers with a nice win over Marquette during a blizzard. Fred Hill Jr. was acting head coach for the job and did a very good job.

Please stay in Ohio Gary Waters.

[Kig Skinny]

Screw the damn big goof Kevin Pittsnoggle.

[LikeWhoa20]

Please tell me someone else is watching this UConn/Nova game. I know ManiacPilot has got to be watching it. Great first half so far. Lowry is picking the Huskies apart, and the trapping D is starting to get into the heads of the UConn guards.

[killerBsaturn]

UConn is pulling away now, or was Ray hits two 3's in a row.

[killerBsaturn]

ahh good game, We'll get you in Gampel.

[doh]

I think this is like when Hulk Hogan first knocked down Zeus in the old WWF. UConn is human?!?!?!

I was not a big 'Nova fan at all until tonight. Impressive victory and I am learning to love Big East Basketball.

[Corn Hawk]

GREAT game. Nova absolutely lit it up in the second half after they fell behind.

[penn_state_xc]

The real X-factor in this game were Villanova's forwards, particularly Will Sheridan. Sheridan showcased his jump shooting ability as well as his ability to be a scoring threat in the low post. Such play from their forwards is critical for Nova if they want to be included in serious Final Four talks.

[Kig Skinny]

Please tell me someone else is watching this UConn/Nova game. I know ManiacPilot has got to be watching it. Great first half so far. Lowry is picking the Huskies apart, and the trapping D is starting to get into the heads of the UConn guards.
Shit! I forgot about this game. I was watching The Westminster Kennel Dog Show.

[maniacpilot931]

Please tell me someone else is watching this UConn/Nova game. I know ManiacPilot has got to be watching it. Great first half so far. Lowry is picking the Huskies apart, and the trapping D is starting to get into the heads of the UConn guards.

HAHA, as Utopias only Cats fan, gotta love it. WHAT A GAME. Lowry wont be here next year unfortunately.

LETS GO NOVA!!!!!!!!1

[LikeWhoa20]

HAHA, as Utopias only Cats fan, gotta love it. WHAT A GAME. Lowry wont be here next year unfortunately.

LETS GO NOVA!!!!!!!!1
Why the hell won't Lowry stay? I would stay one more year to develop that outside jumper before going to the League to become the next Chris Paul.

That was one of the best games of the year. With their trapping D and four guards that can each go on individual scoring spurts at any given time, they most definitely should be considered a national title contender. Sure, they will need some hustle plays to be done by the forwards. But so long as not all of them have a cold shooting night (like the game at Texas, which they still almost won), they will be able to beat anybody.

As for UConn, Marcus Williams had an off night, but he'll be back. The better sign is seeing consistent outside shooting from both Anderson and Gay. That will be huge in March. They need to remember their identity though. They got too caught up pulling up for treys instead of sticking to their game, which is attacking the basket.

[maniacpilot931]

Why the hell won't Lowry stay? I would stay one more year to develop that outside jumper before going to the League to become the next Chris Paul.

That was one of the best games of the year. With their trapping D and four guards that can each go on individual scoring spurts at any given time, they most definitely should be considered a national title contender. Sure, they will need some hustle plays to be done by the forwards. But so long as not all of them have a cold shooting night (like the game at Texas, which they still almost won), they will be able to beat anybody.

As for UConn, Marcus Williams had an off night, but he'll be back. The better sign is seeing consistent outside shooting from both Anderson and Gay. That will be huge in March. They need to remember their identity though. They got too caught up pulling up for treys instead of sticking to their game, which is attacking the basket.

I agree. But Lowry just has the mentality that he needs to be at the top. I really think he does shoot it well, but just passes it up because of better shooters on the team. Besides, he can develop it in the League. The kid has in his facebook profile that he cant wait to get there, if he keeps playing like this, I really cant see him staying next year. Although he would be the man at guard next year. Him, Nardi, Curtis Sumpter, Shane Clark, and Will Sheridan is a top ten team, imo. Bump (Sheridan) sure made his presence felt tonight. Nice.

And as far as UConn, and Williams, they really really underestimated Novas speed, and will be better prepared on the 26th. Yuck, Storrs, cant stand it.

[Chase56]

Great game.

Now a monster game will be Saturday, UConn at WVU.

If WVU pulls this one off, they should without a doubt win the Big East regular season, by beating Villanova and UConn.

[OCCoug]

movin' on up. 3-8 record in the BE now after a 7 point victory over USF which wasn't televised.

To close:
@ SHU
@ UCONN
Marquette
@ Providence
DePaul

Probably going to need 6 wins. Doesn't seem out of the question.

I think Rutgers losing to St Johns hurts us but I'd have to look.
Syracuse also lost to Cincinnati. WTF? That hurts.

[doh]

Syracuse loses again, this time to Cincinatti. Crowd was pathetic. Performance was pathetic. Everything was pathetic. They have to beat either West Virginia or 'Nova at home to have a good chance of playing in March and not in the NIT.

[Rutgers Mike]

Bye Bye Gary Waters. You are worse at coaching basketball, than Greg Robinson is at coaching football.

[doh]

Bye Bye Gary Waters. You are worse at coaching basketball, than Greg Robinson is at coaching football.
Is that even possible? [down]

[Rutgers Mike]

very much so doh. At least Robinson is a decent recruiter.

[Kig Skinny]

Way too go Hoyas. God damn pathetic. Going scoreless for 3,four minute intervals. Starting to slide at the end of the season just like last year.

[LikeWhoa20]

Way too go Hoyas. God damn pathetic. Going scoreless for 3,four minute intervals. Starting to slide at the end of the season just like last year.
I wouldn't say they're sliding, but I am worried that the huge stage of the Big Dance may be too large for a roster full of players that have no Tourney experience. Also, if I'm playing the Hoyas, I exclusively run a 2-3 zone.

[OCCoug]

Way too go Hoyas. God damn pathetic. Going scoreless for 3,four minute intervals. Starting to slide at the end of the season just like last year.

Good thing you're not a Notre Dame fan. Our team seems to have one of those every game [laugh] [laugh] ;)

[Chase56]

Marquette pretty much punched its ticket to play in the tourney, and I think they knock Pitt off on Saturday too.

[LikeWhoa20]

Marquette pretty much punched its ticket to play in the tourney, and I think they knock Pitt off on Saturday too.
They were right in the game at Pitt earlier in the year too until Dominic James got injured.

[maniacpilot931]

They were right in the game at Pitt earlier in the year too until Dominic James got injured.

Pitts going to get blasted by someone soon enough. They have done this three years in a row now. I want to play them this year so bad, guess we'll just have to wait for the the BE tourny...maybe.

[LikeWhoa20]

Pitts going to get blasted by someone soon enough. They have done this three years in a row now. I want to play them this year so bad, guess we'll just have to wait for the the BE tourny...maybe.
This year is different though because Aaron Gray is a real force down in the post. Pitt gets in trouble when they forget that he should be their go-to guy. A 7 foot, 275 pound guy with offensive skills and great tenacity on the boards is damn near unstoppable at the college level. Plus, their defense is still one of the best in the nation, as evidenced by the way they stymied West Virginia.

[OCCoug]

Woo hoo, according to ESPN teams no longer have to have a .500 record to be invited to the NIT, so I'd have to think we'll at least play somewhere in the postseason unless there's a complete collapse.

[OCCoug]

double post.

[Chase56]

This year is different though because Aaron Gray is a real force down in the post. Pitt gets in trouble when they forget that he should be their go-to guy. A 7 foot, 275 pound guy with offensive skills and great tenacity on the boards is damn near unstoppable at the college level. Plus, their defense is still one of the best in the nation, as evidenced by the way they stymied West Virginia.

It's the Jerome Lane syndrome. Gray piles up double digit rebounds on the stat sheet, but he gets half of the rebounds off of his own missed layups.

As for dunking, you would have a tough time slipping a piece of paper under him when he leaps. As a result, even at 7' tall, it needs to be the right situation for him to pull off the dunk.

Still, he has great positioning and is one of the best big men in the Country.

As for Pitt in the BE Tourney, they'll probably get the 5 seed, and will face the last team to get into the Tournament. If the 12 seed is St Johns or Providence, that shouldn't be a problem. If it's Louisville or Notre Dame, Pitt might be one and done at MSG.

[OCCoug]

I found a pretty decent blog for the BE.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/9993211

I didn't check out all the teams yet, just ND, but it seems to be a pretty good read.

[doh]

huge game tonight for Syracuse... they play Louisville at 9 pm ET on ESPN at the Carrier Dome. They need a win to get into the NCAA Tournament because of the 3 reamaining games after this, they have nova and WV at home and are at DePaul, so 0-3 could be very possible.

[UteRob]

Anybody else see Hilton Armstrong of UCONN give the West Virginia fans the finger?

It was near the end of the game, he was getting ready to go to the free throw line, he just casually raised his middle finger in their direction.

It was caught by the CBS camera, so I hope he gets suspended for a game.

[LikeWhoa20]

Anybody else see Hilton Armstrong of UCONN give the West Virginia fans the finger?

It was near the end of the game, he was getting ready to go to the free throw line, he just casually raised his middle finger in their direction.

It was caught by the CBS camera, so I hope he gets suspended for a game.
I didn't see this, but then again I quit watching down the stretch once UConn was assured of winning this one.

I'm starting to think this year WVA squad cannot be compared with last year's. Sure, they always have the potential to go off with their 3 point attack, but a solid, physical defensive team can ruin their rhythm on those jumpers that they're relying on even more than they did last year(like Pitt and UConn have done). Pittsnogle needs to get his game back together before March as well.

[OCCoug]

It was caught by the CBS camera, so I hope he gets suspended for a game.

Mmm, me too. That would be a wonderful game for him to miss. [laugh] :D

ND-Seton Hall in an hour. Go Irish! Pull off the upset!

[HogsRule22]

arkansas got a game today that i thought was a must win. this is gonna be our signature win for the year most likely, and hopefully will help boost us into the dance.

EDIT: oops, just now realized this was supposed to be in the SEC thread lol. i was wondering why i couldnt find my post in there.

[OCCoug]

ND-Seton Hall in an hour. Go Irish! Pull off the upset!

Wahoo!! Irish win @ Seton Hall by a score of 102-91. Score is way inflated 'cos SHU started fouling every possession when the score was like 82-72 with 2:33 left. So as a result the last 2:30 of gametime took about 30 minutes with each team scoring 20 points. It was ridiculous.

But great game for the "O". Quinn with 36, Falls with 32, and Carter with 17. Copeland also played well for SHU scoring 28, but it wasn't enough. ND's built up an early lead and went into the half up by 8. In the second half it got as high as 16, and the Pirates never got it closer than 7 as the Irish held on.

This makes us 4-8 in league which is about 13th. So with only @UConn, Marquette, @Providence, and DePaul left, I like our chances of pulling out 2 or 3 and making the BE tourny where anything can happen. DePaul beating SJU today helped.

By the way, our black jerseys tonight were pretty sick.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060219/capt.d3c551d080104467bab48be20905753b.notre_dame_s eton_hall_basketball_era102.jpg
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060219/capt.4130a9c8c54a409d8a3e4bbf64cba4a0.notre_dame_s eton_hall_basketball_era101.jpg

Hopefully we wear them again this week at Connecticut.

[OCCoug]

By the way, here's a nifty little tool. Plug in the results and it spits back out the final standings.

http://mbb.mountaineerstats.com/stat_project.php?team_id=308&conf_id=5&season=2006

[doh]

The Loud House was rocking last night, 31,000 strong on hand to see Syracuse beat Louisville by about 15. McNamara had a huge game with 30 points despite being hurt for about 4 minutes of the second half. Devendorf was huge in the 2nd half with 9 points in the first 4 minutes... big win, hopefully we can keep the momentum Monday against West Virginia

[Kig Skinny]

The slide continues for my hoyas,three in a row. We gotta be able to defend that scoring junky from Rutgers next.

[maniacpilot931]

The slide continues for my hoyas,three in a row. We gotta be able to defend that scoring junky from Rutgers next.

Don't beat yourself up, pretty hard stretch of games. Can't say I didnt come away impressed by Hibbert though. Kid is going to be making millions someday easy. Nice soft hands for a 7'2" guy

[Kig Skinny]

Don't beat yourself up, pretty hard stretch of games. Can't say I didnt come away impressed by Hibbert though. Kid is going to be making millions someday easy. Nice soft hands for a 7'2" guy
Hibbert is a beast but the last couple of games they go long stretches of not getting him the ball. If he continues to improve each season I can see him being the #1 pick in the nba draft.

[killerBsaturn]

http://209.83.19.3/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=15050&g2_serialNumber=2
Bring it on Villanova.

[doh]

West Virginia... welcome to the Loud House

going to be rowdy tonight

[OCCoug]

Anybody else see Hilton Armstrong of UCONN give the West Virginia fans the finger?

It was near the end of the game, he was getting ready to go to the free throw line, he just casually raised his middle finger in their direction.

It was caught by the CBS camera, so I hope he gets suspended for a game.

Wow... apparently the reason he did it was because a WVU fan shouted at him "Go back to Africa" or something...

[mp212121]

cuse just beat WVU. both teams are going in opposite directions here down the stretch.

[OCCoug]

cuse just beat WVU. both teams are going in opposite directions here down the stretch.

I got three comments on that game:

-Davendorf or whatever his name is annoying
-How is it possible for WVU to not shoot 1 free throw all game?
and -Why did Syracuse fans rush the floor? [laugh]

[doh]

I am embaressed by the fans rushing the court. I only did so because people were running over me and I had no other choice.

Big win tonight... just huge. If we just win one more game all year we'll make the tournament. As for West Virginia not taking a FT, a)the refs only called 5 fouls total in the 2nd half on both teams (there were 8 but the last 3 were just to force FTs) and b) they had ZERO inside game. They were just passing it around the perimeter the entire game. They just got raped inside on both sides of the floor and that does not bode well for them tournament time.

Still a lot of work to do for this team, but good win tonight and hopefully they can build on it.

[OCCoug]

They just got raped inside on both sides of the floor and that does not bode well for them tournament time.

Agree... I'd rather face WVU in the second round than a UConn, Pitt, 'Nova.

By the way, I've got a question comparing the BE to the B10... Would any team in the B10 finish in the top 4 or 5 of the BE?

[Chase56]

Michigan State and Illinois would probably finish 3rd if they were in it.

[OCCoug]

Sweet, another 1 pt. OT loss on the road to the #4 team in the country in a game where we trailed by 19 before coming back.

I can't even appreciate the announcer's "I love that Gay penetration." quote now.

[LikeWhoa20]

I'm starting to think this year WVA squad cannot be compared with last year's. Sure, they always have the potential to go off with their 3 point attack, but a solid, physical defensive team can ruin their rhythm on those jumpers that they're relying on even more than they did last year(like Pitt and UConn have done). Pittsnogle needs to get his game back together before March as well.
Even though it's stupid to quote myself; I just felt like the WVA/'Cuse game was another example of this. WVA may be the ultimate definition of a perimeter-oriented team this year, but the difference from last season was last year's team spread the floor and ATTACKED. Guys like Collins, Herber, and Gansey would penetrate every chance they got down the stretch last season, but this year they all just settle for 3's. The funny thing is their defense is improved from last season even without Fischer and Sally.

I would definitely say Ohio State could finish in the top 4 or 5 in the Big East. I'd put Iowa and Illinois up there as well. Michigan State may not have the defense to enter that category.

[Kig Skinny]

Good for my hoyas to get a win even if it was against Rutgers. The Douby guy has a sweet floater. He can score at will. Next to kick our rival Syracuse's ass.

[maniacpilot931]

whewwwwwwww, i can breathe again. What a game by Cincy and Nova last night. With the officiating inconsistent as hell, I am glad we came up on top.

[doh]

Nice to see more Syracuse fans than Georgetown fans at the MCI Center [laugh]

[Kig Skinny]

Nice to see more Syracuse fans than Georgetown fans at the MCI Center [laugh]
Georgetown doesn't play on campus. It don't matter we won the game on senior day and we going to the ncaa tourney. Syracuse might not be going to the big dance.

[OCCoug]

Crap.

We choke at the end again.

Outscored 29-16 in the last 7 minutes.

Cut their lead to 3 points with 3 minutes left only to get 1 decent shot off before it's way too late.

Colin Falls no points until the last 30 seconds. 1-9 shooting.
Chris Quinn 3-12.

To lose to Marquette at home with your BET tourny hopes and NCAA bubble hopes on the line is unacceptable for a team of ND's quality... especially when you have a chance to put them away up 5 with 7 minutes left.

Ugh.

[maniacpilot931]

Crap.

We choke at the end again.

Outscored 29-16 in the last 7 minutes.

Cut their lead to 3 points with 3 minutes left only to get 1 decent shot off before it's way too late.

Colin Falls no points until the last 30 seconds. 1-9 shooting.
Chris Quinn 3-12.

To lose to Marquette at home with your BET tourny hopes and NCAA bubble hopes on the line is unacceptable for a team of ND's quality... especially when you have a chance to put them away up 5 with 7 minutes left.

Ugh.

yea man your last 30 posts in this thread have been choke city.

HUGE GAME TOMORROW. NOVA AT UCONN.

[OCCoug]

yea man your last 30 posts in this thread have been choke city.

[down] [down] [down] [down]

Nothing like ND basketball! haha. Looking forward to the game tomorrow.

[redandblack]

HUGE GAME TOMORROW. NOVA AT UCONN.


36-33 UConn at half. Will Sheridan is having a pretty good game. Lowry is getting away with a few walks

[redandblack]

dammit Armstrong just got his 7th block already.

They just had a double tech situation. Ray got a tech and so did Williams

[redandblack]

UConn is starting to pull away, 62-54

[redandblack]

UConn wins 89-75.

[Chase56]

Backyard Brawl on Big Monday tonight, it's Pittsnogle's time.

[Rutgers Mike]

Gary Waters has been officially bought out.

[OCCoug]

Beat Providence by 5 or so last night, I don't remember. Good road win for us. Carter and Francis played well, as did McAlarney if I remember.

Need to win against DePaul on senior day.

[doh]

MUST win tonight at DePaul for Syracuse

[OCCoug]

MUST win tonight at DePaul for Syracuse

Thanks for that major choke job, 'Cuse.

DePaul has 90 points and there's still 7 minutes left in the game!

[Chase56]

Depaul is up by 40.

[OCCoug]

108-69 final. Good job by Syracuse to get that last minute 3 to prevent them from winning by 40. Good lord.

[LikeWhoa20]

Nice work Syracuse. Allow 108 points on just 66 possessions, which is easily the worst defensive performance by any team all season. I don't know how they can be considered such a lock to reach the Dance, especially if they can't upset 'Nova this weekend.

[maniacpilot931]

Nice work Syracuse. Allow 108 points on just 66 possessions, which is easily the worst defensive performance by any team all season. I don't know how they can be considered such a lock to reach the Dance, especially if they can't upset 'Nova this weekend.

Don't worry Digger phelps "guranteed" a cuse victory this weekend[glare]

[LikeWhoa20]

Don't worry Digger phelps "guranteed" a cuse victory this weekend[glare]
It wouldn't surprise me if Syracuse did win considering the Big East is now in danger of only getting 7 teams into the Dance and the 'Cuse is one of its marquee programs.

[Rutgers Mike]

Seton Hall punched their ticket to the dance with their win over Pitt tonight.

[LikeWhoa20]

Seton Hall punched their ticket to the dance with their win over Pitt tonight.
So long as they win a 1st round game in the Big East tourney, then they have.

[LikeWhoa20]

Great game today between West Virginia and Cincinnati with both teams playing at extremely high levels. It'll be interesting to see how Cincy does if they reach the Dance considering their success hinges so much on a freshman point guard.

[OCCoug]

How gay.

First, GW and Charlotte go to OT, so that means we miss the start of the ND-DePaul game, probably the first 10 minutes of it. Oh wait, we have ESPN ALternate on DirectTV, and it says they're airing the ND-DePaul game... oh wait, ESPN decides to air GW-CHAR on both. Sweet.

Oh well, I'll just go watch the end of the UCONN-Louisville game.

Wait... nvm, CBS decided to show us the start of the UCLA-Stanford game. Double Sweet!!

[OCCoug]

Woooo!! ND 66 DePaul 61, we won a close game!!

Russell Carter is a freaking stud!

[OCCoug]

USF beat Georgetown tonight. Good for them, I'm sure that win made their season.

Big Rutgers - St. John's game tomorrow.

[Kig Skinny]

USF beat Georgetown tonight. Good for them, I'm sure that win made their season.

Big Rutgers - St. John's game tomorrow.
Fucking pathetic to get beat by a team who was 0-15 in conference! We gonna be one and done when the ncaa tourney comes around. [evil]

[Rutgers Mike]

Big Rutgers - St. John's game tomorrow.


Yeah. I'm going to have to divide my attention between that game and the RU-Villanova women's quarterfinal game at the same time.

[doh]

Gutsy effort today, too many missed oppurtunities, but great game for Gerry to end a great career. Gotta win atleast 1 and probably 2 in the Big East tournament for the Cuse to solidify a berth in the NCAAs.

[Chase56]

BIG EAST
At Madison Square Garden
New York City
FIRST ROUND
Wednesday, March 8
Game 1: Cincinatti (8) vs. Syracuse (9), 12 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 2: Georgetown (5) vs. Notre Dame (12), 2 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 3: Seton Hall (7) vs. Rutgers (10), 7 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 4: Pittsburgh (6) vs. Louisville (11), 9 p.m. (ESPN)
QUARTERFINALS
Thursday, March 9
Game 5: Connecticut (1) vs. Cincinatti/Syracuse, 12 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 6: Marquette (4) vs. Georgetown/Notre Dame, 2 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 7: Villanova (2) vs. Seton Hall/Rutgers, 7 p.m. (ESPN2)
Game 8: West Virginia (3) vs. Pittsburgh/Louisville, 9:30 p.m. (ESPN)
SEMIFINALS
Friday, March 10
Game 9: Game 5 winner vs. Game 6 winner, 7 p.m. (ESPN)
Game 10: Game 7 winner vs. Game 8 winner, 9 p.m. (ESPN)
CHAMPIONSHIP
Saturday, March 11
Game 11: Game 9 winner vs. Game 10 winner, 8 p.m. (ESPN)

[OCCoug]

Notre Dame - Georgetown

Set your TiVos folks, this one's going to overtime.

[LikeWhoa20]

Notre Dame - Georgetown

Set your TiVos folks, this one's going to overtime.
haha yeah G'Town/ND has had the best run of games in the last few years of any two teams in the country.

[Chase56]

I don't see why Louisville or Notre Dame can't make it to the Semi Finals.

[Rutgers Mike]

I don't see why Louisville or Notre Dame can't make it to the Semi Finals.


I don't see why Rutgers can't make it to the semifinals. [laugh]

[Kig Skinny]

haha yeah G'Town/ND has had the best run of games in the last few years of any two teams in the country.
ND is the one and only team I didn't wanna play in The Big East tourney.[down]

[Rutgers Mike]

March 6, 2006

PROVIDENCE, R.I. - Rudy Gay of Connecticut and Gerry McNamara of Syracuse, the BIG EAST Preseason Co-Players of the Year, were named to the 2005-06 All-BIG EAST First Team by a vote of the league's head coaches, who were not permitted to select their own players.

With the increased membership of the BIG EAST to 16 teams, the all-league teams have been expanded. Eleven players made the All-BIG EAST First Team. On March 7, one of those players will be named BIG EAST Player of the Year when the league announces its individual award winners at the Grand Hyatt Hotel in New York City at 5 p.m. EST.

Gay, a 6-9 sophomore forward, averaged 15.4 points and 6.6 rebounds while helping Connecticut to a share of the BIG EAST regular season title and the top seed in this week's BIG EAST Championship Presented by Aeropostale. The Huskies are 27-2 overall and 14-2 in the BIG EAST.

McNamara, a 6-2 senior guard, averaged 16.4 points this season and finished his BIG EAST regular season career with 1,010 points in league games. He is the BIG EAST's all-time leader in 3-point field goals made with 183 and is the all-time top free throw shooter in league play at 91.7 percent.

Last season, Gay was the BIG EAST Co-Rookie of the Year. McNamara was a member of a five-player All-BIG EAST First Team.

This year, four players earned first team honors unanimously - Gay, Marquette forward Steve Novak and Villanova guards Randy Foye and Allan Ray.

Novak is averaging 17.4 points and broke the BIG EAST record with 70 3-point baskets in conference games. He helped Marquette compile a 20-9 overall record, a 10-6 league mark and a No. 4 tournament seed.

Foye, a 6-4 senior, and Ray, a 6-2 senior, led Villanova to a share of the BIG EAST regular season crown with a 14-2 record. Overall, the Wildcats are 24-3. Foye is second in the league in scoring in all games with a 20.2 average while Ray is fourth at 19.1.

The other members of the All-BIG EAST First Team are: senior forward Eric Hicks of Cincinnati, senior guard Chris Quinn of Notre Dame, junior center Aaron Gray of Pittsburgh, junior guard Quincy Douby of Rutgers, senior forward Mike Gansey of West Virginia and senior center Kevin Pittsnogle of West Virginia.

Hicks averaged 14.2 points, 9.3 rebounds and 3.4 blocked shots for Cincinnati. Quinn averaged 18.2 points for Notre Dame. His assist average of 6.2 in all games was tops in the BIG EAST.

Gray was the only player in the league to average a double-double, averaging 14.0 points and a league-leading 10.4 boards in all games. Douby became Rutgers' first BIG EAST scoring champion, averaging 27.0 in conference play. He was also the scoring leader in all games, averaging 25.1 points.

Gansey and Pittsnogle were among the league's top scorers all season. Gansey averaged 17.4 points and shot 56.3 percent from the field. Pittsnogle averaged 19.4 points while hitting at a 48.8 clip from the floor. The Mountaineers are 20-9 overall and 11-5 in the BIG EAST. They will be the No. 3 seed in The BIG EAST Championship Presented by Aeropostale.

The BIG EAST All-Rookie Team also has 11 members, one of which will be named BIG EAST Rookie of the Year. Three members were unanimous picks - guard Devan Downey of Cincinnati, forward Wilson Chandler of DePaul and guard Dominic James of Marquette.

2005-06 All-BIG EAST First Team
Eric Hicks, Cincinnati, Sr., 6-6, 245, Greensboro, N.C.
*Rudy Gay, Connecticut, So., 6-9, 220, Baltimore, Md.
*Steve Novak, Marquette, Sr., 6-10, 220, Brown Deer, Wis.
Chris Quinn, Notre Dame, Sr., 6-2, 185, Dublin, Ohio
Aaron Gray, Pittsburgh, Jr., 7-0, 270, Emmaus, Pa.
Quincy Douby, Rutgers, Jr., 6-3, 175, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Gerry McNamara, Syracuse, Sr., 6-2, 182, Scranton, Pa.
*Randy Foye, Villanova, Sr., 6-4, 205, Newark, N.J.
*Allan Ray, Villanova, Sr., 6-2, 205, Bronx, N.Y.
Mike Gansey, West Virginia, Sr., 6-4, 205, Olmstead Falls, Ohio
Kevin Pittsnogle, West Virginia, Sr., 6-11, 255, Martinsburg, W.Va.

2005-06 All-BIG EAST Second Team
Hilton Armstrong, Connecticut, Sr., 6-11, 235, Peekskill, N.Y.
Marcus Williams, Connecticut, Jr., 6-3, 205, Los Angeles, Calif.
Jeff Green, Georgetown, So., 6-8, 225, Hyattsville, Md.
Roy Hibbert, Georgetown, So., 7-2, 272, Bethesda, Md.
Taquan Dean, Louisville, Sr., 6-3, 185, Red Bank, N.J.
Carl Krauser, Pittsburgh, Sr., 6-2, 200, Bronx, N.Y.
Donnie McGrath, Providence, Sr., 6-4, 190, Katonah, N.Y.
Donald Copeland, Seton Hall, Sr., 5-10, 173, Jersey City, N.J.
Kelly Whitney, Seton Hall, Sr., 6-8, 245, Chicago, Ill.
Kyle Lowry, Villanova, So., 6-1, 190, Philadelphia, Pa.

2005-06 BIG EAST Honorable Mention
James White, Cincinnati, Sr., 6-7, 200, Kensington, Md.
Rashad Anderson, Connecticut, Sr., 6-5, 215, Lakeland, Fla.
Josh Boone, Connecticut, Jr., 6-10, 237, Mt. Airy, Md.
Dominic James, Marquette, Fr., 5-10, 165, Richmond, Ind.
Lamont Hamilton, St. John's, Jr., 6-10, 253, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Solomon Jones, USF, Sr., 6-10, 230, Mount Dora, Fla.

BIG EAST All-Rookie Team
*Devan Downey, Cincinnati, 5-10, 175, Chester, S.C.
Jeff Adrien, Connecticut, 6-6, 225, Brookline, Mass.
*Wilson Chandler, DePaul, 6-7, 190, Benton Harbor, Mich.
Sam Young, Pittsburgh, 6-6, 210, Clinton, Md.
*Dominic James, Marquette, 5-10, 165, Richmond, Ind.
Jerel McNeal, Marquette, 6-3, 185, Country Club Hills, Ill.
Sharaud Curry, Providence, 5-10, 165, Gainesville, Ga.
Geoff McDermott, Providence, 6-7, 230, New Rochelle, N.Y.
JR Inman, Rutgers, 6-9, 220, Pomona, N.Y.
Anthony Farmer, Rutgers, 6-1, 190, Millville, N.J.
Eric Devendorf, Syracuse, 6-4, 175, Bay City, Mich.

*denotes unanimous selection

[maniacpilot931]

Foye BE POY, and Jay Wright BE COY. Congrats to them.

[OCCoug]

Quinn won the Sportsmanship award for the BE I think.

Anyways, tournament starts tomorrow and I'll be in class during the game. Ughhhh

[CincyBuck32]

Cincinnati makes an amazing comeback, gets the lead, and then McNamara makes some lucky shot.[down] That one hurt.

[maniacpilot931]

Cincinnati makes an amazing comeback, gets the lead, and then McNamara makes some lucky shot.[down] That one hurt.

i think cincy still makes the tourny. Man, I cant stand Syracuse this year. Not only is GMac a lucky s.o.b. but that crazy devendorf decides to trash talk to white after the game. Cant wait to see them get slammed by Uconn tomorrow.

[LikeWhoa20]

i think cincy still makes the tourny. Man, I cant stand Syracuse this year. Not only is GMac a lucky s.o.b. but that crazy devendorf decides to trash talk to white after the game. Cant wait to see them get slammed by Uconn tomorrow.
Marcus Williams will pick that zone apart as usual tomorrow. As for Cincy, they should still definitely get in. Sure, they're 6-10 without Kirkland, but a lot of losses came right after the injury. Lately, they're back playing at a high level and they have more than enough quality wins to merit an at-large bid.

[maniacpilot931]

Marcus Williams will pick that zone apart as usual tomorrow. As for Cincy, they should still definitely get in. Sure, they're 6-10 without Kirkland, but a lot of losses came right after the injury. Lately, they're back playing at a high level and they have more than enough quality wins to merit an at-large bid.

Likewhoa just wanted to mention that I got Killingsworth's autograph last month while they were here in PSU. Stayed at the hotel I worked with, and I was talking to a few of them for a little while they were in the restaurant. Quiet guy.

[Kig Skinny]

Nice win for my hoyas,especially since we started the game 0-13 shooting. Payback against Marquette tomorrow.

[LikeWhoa20]

Likewhoa just wanted to mention that I got Killingsworth's autograph last month while they were here in PSU. Stayed at the hotel I worked with, and I was talking to a few of them for a little while they were in the restaurant. Quiet guy.
That's cool that you got to meet all the guys. Well Notre Dame can finally shut up about how they were THIS close to being an NCAA-worthy team (and I like the Irish's program). Sorry but having a defense and rebounding that poor just won't cut it in the Big East. The funny thing though is that they still have better offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency ratings than Gonzaga.

[OCCoug]

That's cool that you got to meet all the guys. Well Notre Dame can finally shut up about how they were THIS close to being an NCAA-worthy team (and I like the Irish's program). Sorry but having a defense and rebounding that poor just won't cut it in the Big East. The funny thing though is that they still have better offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency ratings than Gonzaga.

Man I'm not even going to watch the game. I taped it cos I was at class but I don't think my heart can even take another close loss. [down]

Looking forward to the NIT though.

[NDstud21]

This game looked like it was going to be Notre Dame from the get-go after a 14-4 start. Brey just isn't a good game-change coach. As much as I respect him for having the players compete every night a good coach would've won some of those close games.