CH: Legacy Mode is frustrating as hell

[penn_state_xc]

Okay, so I am playing on All-Conference level (toned down from All-American) and I STILL can't seem to hold on to a lead larger than 2-3 points cause my idiot guys can't play defense nor can they run the floor and get a basket on the other end. FYI, I am playing as Colgate and am 0-3 thus far.

Maybe I should stop trying to play up-tempo ball seeing as they fatigue very quickly

[Wufpack]

Okay, so I am playing on All-Conference level (toned down from All-American) and I STILL can't seem to hold on to a lead larger than 2-3 points cause my idiot guys can't play defense nor can they run the floor and get a basket on the other end. FYI, I am playing as Colgate and am 0-3 thus far.

Maybe I should stop trying to play up-tempo ball seeing as they fatigue very quickly

Hell, I started 0-5 with Sacred Heart, just get acquianted with your players. I went 14-15 last season, but I still consider that pretty good for my first year. In my second season, I'm 2-3. Of course my best player was injured for four of those games, in which I went 1-3. It'll be good to have him back.

[J Hall]

Well, you're using one of the worst teams....can't expect them to dominate with Duke. That aside, I'm using Stony Brook and I'm like 11-5. Besides a lose to a conference rival (I couldn't hit a jumper to save my life) and 4 losses to ranked oppenents, I'm rocking with the Seawolves. I'm not bragging, manly saying, the more you play, the more the game makes sense. Make sure you're playing to your team's strengths. If you have outside shooters, work the ball around for open shots. Kill the cpu with the 3! If you have big guys, dump the ball down low.

Oh, and I wouldn't reccommend running fast break everytime, unless you like to. These first schools you can use in career mode just don't have the horses to do that. Just take your time and work for the open shot. You have 35 seconds for cryin out loud to get a good shot.

Work the pick and roll. Try to hit the guy that set the pick going back to the basket. Easy way to get a layup/good shot

[Piper]

Well, you're using one of the worst teams....can't expect them to dominate with Duke. That aside, I'm using Stony Brook and I'm like 11-5. Besides a lose to a conference rival (I couldn't hit a jumper to save my life) and 4 losses to ranked oppenents, I'm rocking with the Seawolves. I'm not bragging, manly saying, the more you play, the more the game makes sense. Make sure you're playing to your team's strengths. If you have outside shooters, work the ball around for open shots. Kill the cpu with the 3! If you have big guys, dump the ball down low.

Oh, and I wouldn't reccommend running fast break everytime, unless you like to. These first schools you can use in career mode just don't have the horses to do that. Just take your time and work for the open shot. You have 35 seconds for cryin out loud to get a good shot.

Work the pick and roll. Try to hit the guy that set the pick going back to the basket. Easy way to get a layup/good shot
Depends on your lineup. In my first season at Drake, I really don't have the talent top to bottom to compete for the Mo Valley Championship. But I do have Chris Bryant as a Senior, and some fairly good rebounding. Still, my only weapon is Bryant for 3, and hope I get my share of offensive putbacks. Even that is not enough points to wini games, so I press and run the break, especially with Bryant on the bench. I don't have the horses, like most smalls and mid-majors, but neither do most of my opponents. I play 9 guys and half of them are rated mid-60s and below, but it works.

[Papa LoneStar]

that's exactly why I love this game. Offline (legacy) and online are equally enjoyable.

[penn_state_xc]

Alright, so I finally got my first win against New Hampshire, 64-54. I am now 1-3. The first half, my style of play finally worked as I racked up a 43-31 halftime lead (I play 12 minute halves) thanks to great defense and awesome 3-point shooting. The second half saw my lead balloon to 16, only to see it get whittled down to 6 a couple of times before New Hampshire blew its chances and I hit my free throws down the stretch. Hey, a win's a win. Hopefully many more will come, especially once Patriot League play starts. I'm thinking of possibly simming some of my games since it would take forever for me to complete a season.

[Piper]

Alright, so I finally got my first win against New Hampshire, 64-54. I am now 1-3. The first half, my style of play finally worked as I racked up a 43-31 halftime lead (I play 12 minute halves) thanks to great defense and awesome 3-point shooting. The second half saw my lead balloon to 16, only to see it get whittled down to 6 a couple of times before New Hampshire blew its chances and I hit my free throws down the stretch. Hey, a win's a win. Hopefully many more will come, especially once Patriot League play starts. I'm thinking of possibly simming some of my games since it would take forever for me to complete a season.
In my initial closed legacy, I rarely play a game in my first two seasons. I don't feel real sporting by doing this, but I just can't handle staying at a small school. Generally I sim until I get a mid-major offer, and no matter who it is, I take it.

Having said that, I strongly encourage you and everyone to play all your games. If I start a new legacy, I play every game, even at the small schools.

The reason I think this is the way to go is the immersion it provides. A lot of guys sim and recruit. That's great, but you cheat yourself of the real experience. Yeah, it takes a while. In fact, it is unlikely that I could finish a season in three weeks (Xmas break might be an exception). I just find myself getting so involved with my team when I play, and after three weeks, that conference tourney means a heck of a lot more to you, as does the NCAA tourney. When you get bounced, it hurts a lot more. When you don't land that prize recruit and end up playing him twice a year when you meet your rival, it hurts a lot more. It all means more.

Sim all day, recruit, sim again...play 30 seasons a week. In the end, you start over and sim again. Two months later you are dropping $50 on a new shooter that has a fraction of the replay value. Personally, by the time I am done with my legacy, my $30 investment in 2K6 has gotten me into March at least. I watch March Madness, and I am pumped for another legacy. Next thing I know it's football season...

[J Hall]

^^^
couldn't have said it better myself. i love playing all my games. it takes awhile, but it's fun

Edit: I just took out the long unnecessary quote :) - Keith

[C Money]

Yea I never understand why people SIM all their games every season. I play them all, and enjoy every minute of it. I cant wait till I get this for XMas.

[Keith1212]

I've played all my games so far. I'm 12-5 because of it :keith_yes

As the season is winding down, I almost want to sim so I can get to the end of the season but I can't now. The only games left are conference games. I'm on top of the conference by one game and if I sim and lose then I lose the top spot. I can't let that happen. I won't [evil]

:D

[LikeWhoa20]

Okay, so I am playing on All-Conference level (toned down from All-American) and I STILL can't seem to hold on to a lead larger than 2-3 points cause my idiot guys can't play defense nor can they run the floor and get a basket on the other end. FYI, I am playing as Colgate and am 0-3 thus far.

Maybe I should stop trying to play up-tempo ball seeing as they fatigue very quickly
First of all, move the Fatigue Rate (pretty sure that's the name of it) slider down to 14 (the default is 20). That makes the players fatigue at a more normal rate. As for your style of play, maybe an uptempo, fast-paced style is what you want to install at your program, but you still have to play to your current strengths. If you can really only go 6 or 7 deep, there's no way you should be racing up and down the court. Or else you should be spending a lot of time working on conditioning (more than the usual 20%) in the "Training" section of the Coach's Meeting menu.

[Piper]

Yeah, simming is really not an option when you are fighting for the league title.

[penn_state_xc]

Alright, so I finished 14-12 overall, 9-5 in the Patriot League with Colgate in my first year. Unfortunately, I was upset in the first round of the conference tournament by Lehigh and in the offseason I only landed a two-star and a one-star player. The two-star PG could eventually be something decent, fortunately I have all my three-point shooters coming back plus my two starting forwards. I've got a real bitch of a non-conference schedule in my second season as I play my first five games on the road including at #5 Arizona. I also will be playing at Clemson later on. At the very least, my team will be battle-tested by the time Patriot League play starts.

[Wufpack]

I'm currently 9-7, 6-1 in my second season at Sacred Heart, winning 5 straight. I've been running my system and snatching down rebounds like the dickens with my rotation of 7 foot, 7 foot, and 6' 11" (well, when he does go in, primarily for rebounds) with a walk-on thats also 7 feet. I'm using my juco transfer to create shit off the dribble and pretty much score most of the points. I kind of don't like my starting center, he's 286 pounds and misses more than his share of shots in the paint in which my slimmer backup center can get down the floor and can even shoot three's if I want to with him.

[Soonerfan09]

I think I'm 7-7 (2-2) so far with Mount St. Mary's. I've got the nation's leading scorer (sp?) in my 64 ovr SF, but the lack of a big man has cost me a couple games. I've upset Penn State and Akron, and taken St. Francis (NY), Mississippi State, and La Salle to the wire.
I've got 5 scholarships to work with, but so far I've offered to only 2 stars.
Now my controller is messing up, so I'm hoping Christmas hurrys up, so I can get my new PS2, which I'm pretty sure comes with a controller.

Been real fun so far though.

[Piper]

Hope Christmas comes early for you this year.

By the way, are you pretty excited about Sampson's kid as your starting PG?

[Soonerfan09]

By the way, are you pretty excited about Sampson's kid as your starting PG?
I don't know yet, I haven't got to watch hardly any OU basketball because of games myself.
I wasn't too high on him when he first got here, and with some of the scores of their last couple games, I'm really not sure what to think. I just know they better get it together before conference play starts.


Hope Christmas comes early for you this year.
Hah, funny you should say that, because I broke down today and bought a new controller. My L1 button didn't work at all, so there was no way for me to play, so I just bought a new one, a 25$ new one :(

The ironic thing about that is, is that maybe an hour or so before, my friend called and asked if he could use me second controller, because his was acting funky. Well, I let him borrow it, come home and play for a while, and out of nowhere, my controller starts acting up.

[J Hall]

He broke your shit! Some friend you have....

[Soonerfan09]

He broke your shit! Some friend you have....
Heh, he didn't brake my controller. His controller started messing up, so I let him borrow my extra contoller. Then I come home, and my main controller is acting up, so I didn't have a spare, because I let him borrow it. :)

[J Hall]

Oh, I gotcha. Misunderstood that one

[Piper]

You should blame it on him anyway.

[Soonerfan09]

Hah, yeah, I should.

Man, playing against someone else is so much fun.
I played my friend (saem one) a couple times today and seemed to have his number.

Gonzaga (him) V.S. LSU (me) - I won by around 20
Washington (him) V.S. Charlotte (me) - I won by 40+ (He couldn't buy a lay up)
Arizona (me) V.S. Maryland (him) - I won by around 10, but it was a good close game
Syracuse (him) V.S. Memphis (me) I won by 20-30.

Although I had him today, he's had his fair share of wins against me (anytime he's Illinois), but it's always fun.

[Makaveli_Reborn]

so, i would be playing exclusively in legacy mode, is this worth the $35?

I'm not a HUGE basketball fan, but i have more than a passing interest. And I loved recruiting in CH (whichever the first one on XBOX was) and thought it should have been implemented into NCAA Football.

[Piper]

so, i would be playing exclusively in legacy mode, is this worth the $35?

I'm not a HUGE basketball fan, but i have more than a passing interest. And I loved recruiting in CH (whichever the first one on XBOX was) and thought it should have been implemented into NCAA Football.
I got it for $30 the day it came out, and it is absolutely worth it for me. I have no idea how many hours I have in it already, and I imagine I will be playing whenever I can over the holiday.

I mainly play sports games, and I generally don't play games too often. Hard to put this one down though.

[LikeWhoa20]

so, i would be playing exclusively in legacy mode, is this worth the $35?

I'm not a HUGE basketball fan, but i have more than a passing interest. And I loved recruiting in CH (whichever the first one on XBOX was) and thought it should have been implemented into NCAA Football.
I definitely recommend it. This is a steal at $30.

[Soonerfan09]

so, i would be playing exclusively in legacy mode, is this worth the $35?

I'm not a HUGE basketball fan, but i have more than a passing interest. And I loved recruiting in CH (whichever the first one on XBOX was) and thought it should have been implemented into NCAA Football.
As others have said, definately.

[penn_state_xc]

So let's see I'm now 4-5 (I've done a lot of simming) in my 2nd season with Colgate, just finished playing a game in which I got "upset" 84-76 by fucking North Carolina A&T, a worse team on paper than mine. They did shoot lights-out from 3 point land though. I did whittle the defecit to 4 with a minute and a half left but missed a couple of easy layups down the stretch which would've extended the game. Fucking idiots, can't make a basket to save their lives in the clutch. Upsets suck when you're on the losing end of them. [evil]

[Chase56]

alright, i just picked the game up tonight. started out as duke against psu to get a feel (played 2k6, pretty much the same). played about 8 minutes, had a 31-8 lead as redick was such a cheeser. then did a robert morris (future dynasty) against pitt with the same settings. was down at the half 54-24. great great game.

[OCCoug]

Hah, yeah, I should.

Man, playing against someone else is so much fun.
I played my friend (saem one) a couple times today and seemed to have his number.

Gonzaga (him) V.S. LSU (me) - I won by around 20
Washington (him) V.S. Charlotte (me) - I won by 40+ (He couldn't buy a lay up)
Arizona (me) V.S. Maryland (him) - I won by around 10, but it was a good close game
Syracuse (him) V.S. Memphis (me) I won by 20-30.

Although I had him today, he's had his fair share of wins against me (anytime he's Illinois), but it's always fun.

Agreed. Played 3 games against my cousin, all Arizona @ Notre Dame, and the games were close every time. 71-70, 59-53, and 62-59 [I won the last]. The games would have been a lot more interesting if we knew how to shoot free throws. in the last game, he was 2-18 and I was 3-31. [wow] [laugh]

[EAaggies]

I think I restarted closed legacy like 3 times already. Mainly cause I realized early mistakes in recruiting and also in getting the right sliders and good team.

I finally decided this time I'm sticking with my legacy. I'm going with Colgate and I'm using Whoa's sliders...although with some modifications for my first year team that has one 70 rated guy and 60's and below.

Also I'm focusing my recruiting to local guys who show a clear interest. Not letting myself spread my points too thin since I'm a beginning program with not alot of points.

Anyhow so far I'm 1-0 so so far so good.

My goal is to make it to the NCAA tournament if I can, the rest is gravy.

[penn_state_xc]

I think I restarted closed legacy like 3 times already. Mainly cause I realized early mistakes in recruiting and also in getting the right sliders and good team.

I finally decided this time I'm sticking with my legacy. I'm going with Colgate and I'm using Whoa's sliders...although with some modifications for my first year team that has one 70 rated guy and 60's and below.

Also I'm focusing my recruiting to local guys who show a clear interest. Not letting myself spread my points too thin since I'm a beginning program with not alot of points.

Anyhow so far I'm 1-0 so so far so good.

My goal is to make it to the NCAA tournament if I can, the rest is gravy.

Good choice in Colgate. I haven't messed with sliders too much, except for increasing the foul call frequency and upping my 3 pt shooting and stealing abilites by 1 point. I went 14-12 last year from a mixture of playing/simming. So far, I'm 7-6 I played 3 in a row earlier tonight, won 2 out of 3 including a nice 68-61 win over Bucknell.

Another reason I chose Colgate was because of the dearth of talent recruiting-wise in the New York area. I am going to land myself a nice 3-star shooting guard from the Bronx this offseason and a few decent 2-star kids as well.

[J Hall]

Co-sign on the talent in NY. I'm using Stony Brook and after a fluke year of getting to the Sweet Sixteen I've been getting a lot of players interested in me in that area. I already signed a 3-star point guard and a 3-star power forward in the first week of early signing period. They should end up being pretty good.

[Makaveli_Reborn]

k, so is the closed legacy broken or not?

Im referring to the deal where you get stuck on coach points if you have more than you can distribute?

[J Hall]

I heard that this isn't even an issue as long as you don't load settings while in your legacy. In that, when you start up everything and are about to play games, DON'T go load any saved settings. Just manually edit whatever. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though

[Makaveli_Reborn]

I heard that this isn't even an issue as long as you don't load settings while in your legacy. In that, when you start up everything and are about to play games, DON'T go load any saved settings. Just manually edit whatever. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though
yeah i thought that was just to keep your open legacy from turning into a closed one. I didnt know if the closed legacy was busted if you started in it from the beginning

[LikeWhoa20]

yeah i thought that was just to keep your open legacy from turning into a closed one. I didnt know if the closed legacy was busted if you started in it from the beginning
I doubt it can get busted in a closed legacy. Someone would have already brought it up, and I know a couple people who already finished an entire 30 year career in career legacy mode.